Problems building websites using page builders with Dave Foy – SWC 55

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Problems building websites using page builders with Dave Foy - SWC 55

Page Builders offer a quick and easy way to create WordPress websites. However, even this delightful way of building websites has the other side laden with problems. Once you finalize on the big question of selecting a specific page builder, the follow up is about dealing with profound issues on the correct way of using that page builder.

A streamlined and consistent workflow is essential for efficient website building with page builders. Helping you take the stress out of the workflow questions, here is Dave Foy for your no-stress introduction to website building with page builders.

01. Yes or no to using Page Builders

  • I have spent almost five years in Genesis StudioPress ecosystem building a lot of websites using PHP and CSS code play. During that time, I looked down upon page builder, but when I started using Beaver Builder, my perception was busted from the core. The decision to get into page builder ecosystem can be difficult for many dev centric folks. Has this been same for you?
  • Now once you decide to jump into the page builders ecosystem, a bigger devil is waiting for you. Choosing which page builder to use can be an overwhelming decision in itself. I used site origin page builder and then moved to Beaver Builder. I still use Beaver Builder for all website stuff even though Elementor shine is all over the place. How did you arrive at the decision to use a specific page builder, which is Elementor in your case?

02. The blank start with Page Builders

  • Ideally premade theme would have all elements and sample widget data to make the theme look functionally good out of the box. However, with page builder, starting a new page is like staring at a blank screen with tons of options waiting for you. Isn’t page builders also overwhelming for new users unless they start with some pre-made template which is another discovery routine in itself?
  • Do you recommend using pre-made templates in case of page builders or suggest starting with a blank canvas approach with proper workflow in place?

03. Adventurous use of options in Page Builders

  • A WordPress theme would have font, color and other styling options in the customizer. In a non-page builder setup, those options are by default applied to all pages and posts. But when using page builder, every element comes with own styling options and I have seen a few adventurous results where one page can have five different fonts and a lot of color splash. How to tame this urge to use options when using page builders?
  • Besides of course setting default styling in theme settings, which page builder specific styling options you regularly use when building pages of a brochure website?

04. The missing Page Builder Workflow

  • Page builders allow speedy website building, but even this fast pace way requires a workflow to keep things organized and consistent. Which are few common workflow mistakes page builder users make besides of course going extra adventurous on use of color, and font options?
  • How has your workflow of building websites using page builder changed over a few years? Like what were major additions and deletions in your whole setup?

05. Looking ahead in the Page Builder ecosystem

  • Page builders still have few perception issues like huge HTML code, not SEO friendly, and this list goes on. How do you counter this argument when someone is not keen on using a page builder due to these reasons?
  • Where does Gutenberg fit in for page builder and non-page builder users?

Dave Foy’s ToolBox

  • Love using ThriveCart of selling courses and consultation sessions.
  • Use Basecamp for project and tasks management requirements.
  • Prefer to use Thinkific platform for hosting courses.
  • Use StreamYard for live streaming of videos for course students.
  • For web hosting needs use Cloudways for own websites.

About Dave Foy

dave foy no stress coursesFor as long as I can remember, I’ve loved helping people. I’m actually a qualified teacher. For ten years, I taught 5-11-year-olds in the UK – I know a thing or two about breaking down tough-to-grasp concepts in ways that literally anyone can understand.

21 years ago, I built my very first website. In 2003 I turned pro and spent the next 14 years building websites for clients large and small, using WordPress since 2007.

However, the urge to teach and help people grow never went away. In more recent years, I worked with many non-coder designers who were drawn to the new crop of drag-n-drop page builders like Elementor, but were still struggling to build fully functional, high converting websites.

So in early 2017, I decided to combine my passions for teaching, web design and WordPress and teach online. Since then, I’ve supported thousands of people in building high-converting websites quickly and profitably with WordPress and Elementor.

I teach via my free YouTube channel and regular webinars, as well as two online courses:

No Stress WordPress is a step-by-step training program & support community for frustrated non-coders who use Elementor, teaching an entire framework for delivering fully functional WordPress websites, from start to go live.

No Fear Funnels is my sales funnels course for non-marketers. I teach non-coder web designers and business owners how to use WordPress and Elementor to create websites that get better results for them and their clients.

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